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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwianarama.co.nz/le-country-we-love-to-hate/#comment-2521</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 19:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree we shouldn&#039;t meddle. We should have stayed out of WW1 - Why Great Granddad went to France for to get shot to pieces at all beats me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree we shouldn&#8217;t meddle. We should have stayed out of WW1 &#8211; Why Great Granddad went to France for to get shot to pieces at all beats me.</p>
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		<title>By: Scooter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwianarama.co.nz/le-country-we-love-to-hate/#comment-1682</link>
		<dc:creator>Scooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 13:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My point remains that a state shouldn’t meddle in another state’s business.&quot;

What, like the French meddling in the affairs of the Kanak people? Or blowing up Polynesian atolls? Or killing thousands of Algerians?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My point remains that a state shouldn’t meddle in another state’s business.&#8221;</p>
<p>What, like the French meddling in the affairs of the Kanak people? Or blowing up Polynesian atolls? Or killing thousands of Algerians?</p>
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		<title>By: bonsai</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwianarama.co.nz/le-country-we-love-to-hate/#comment-1577</link>
		<dc:creator>bonsai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 04:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, it&#039;s not the British we hate. It&#039;s the English.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, it&#8217;s not the British we hate. It&#8217;s the English.</p>
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		<title>By: Selwyn Nogood</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwianarama.co.nz/le-country-we-love-to-hate/#comment-1576</link>
		<dc:creator>Selwyn Nogood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are equal opportunity xenophobes. We&#039;re quite happy to hate anyone who isn&#039;t Kiwi. And many who are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are equal opportunity xenophobes. We&#8217;re quite happy to hate anyone who isn&#8217;t Kiwi. And many who are.</p>
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		<title>By: Fruitbat</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwianarama.co.nz/le-country-we-love-to-hate/#comment-1575</link>
		<dc:creator>Fruitbat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, I thought you all hated the British, I&#039;ve never heard a kiwi openly slagging off the French as a nation, but if I had a dollar for every unprovoked attack on the British, well I wouldn&#039;t be here for a start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I thought you all hated the British, I&#8217;ve never heard a kiwi openly slagging off the French as a nation, but if I had a dollar for every unprovoked attack on the British, well I wouldn&#8217;t be here for a start.</p>
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		<title>By: Smelly Cheese</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwianarama.co.nz/le-country-we-love-to-hate/#comment-1550</link>
		<dc:creator>Smelly Cheese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 08:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your certainty...

Have a nice day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your certainty&#8230;</p>
<p>Have a nice day.</p>
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		<title>By: Lewis Holden</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwianarama.co.nz/le-country-we-love-to-hate/#comment-1549</link>
		<dc:creator>Lewis Holden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 01:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Unless you have proof NZ never did anything wrong… &quot;

Err, unless you have proof New Zealand did anything. Seriously, I can&#039;t find anything that says New Zealand was involved in any international reports or newspapers. Not even a jot in Le Monde Diplomatique. How strange.

Don&#039;t give me this &quot;the truth is out there&quot; line. The truth is New Zealand had virtually no involvement in New Caledonia&#039;s independence movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unless you have proof NZ never did anything wrong… &#8221;</p>
<p>Err, unless you have proof New Zealand did anything. Seriously, I can&#8217;t find anything that says New Zealand was involved in any international reports or newspapers. Not even a jot in Le Monde Diplomatique. How strange.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t give me this &#8220;the truth is out there&#8221; line. The truth is New Zealand had virtually no involvement in New Caledonia&#8217;s independence movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Smelly Cheese</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwianarama.co.nz/le-country-we-love-to-hate/#comment-1548</link>
		<dc:creator>Smelly Cheese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 07:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi !

I&#039;m sorry if my post shocked you but I guess it&#039;s also because I was too elusive. It&#039;s true I said that if you &quot;rooted around&quot; you might find out what I was talking about but after trying to do so myself on the Internet I came to the conclusion that it&#039;s just &quot;not there&quot;.

The &quot;it&quot; refers to NZ&#039;s implication in inciting the Kanak people from New Caledonia to rebel against French authority. If you don&#039;t remember it there were very troubled times there in the 80s.

I&#039;m not going to argue about whether the Kanak people were justified in rebelling or not, that&#039;s not my point.
My point remains that a state shouldn&#039;t meddle in another state&#039;s business. They all do of course but if you think the Rainbow Warrior business was wrong (and it absolutely, totally WAS, and the agents should certainly have been punished more harshly, though not as harshly as their superiors and particularly the politicians in charge at the time) well then you will agree that NZ shouldn&#039;t have incited people to &quot;take up arms&quot; in the 80s.

Still doesn&#039;t compare ? well if you do need dead people for something to be important, you will find ample information about that on the web : people got killed by the French police and by independence fighters.

Final point : how do I know ? I know because my dad was a local reporter there at the time and he nearly got killed... I guess that&#039;s also why I&#039;m a bit emotional about it. You don&#039;t have to believe me but I believe him.

I&#039;ll understand that my answer lacks actual evidence but as I have none to offer but my word if you don&#039;t believe me please don&#039;t answer this post. Unless you have proof NZ never did anything wrong... 

We live in a world that&#039;s both beautiful and messy. Let&#039;s try and make it better. Let&#039;s talk and not fight.

Have a nice day !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi !</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry if my post shocked you but I guess it&#8217;s also because I was too elusive. It&#8217;s true I said that if you &#8220;rooted around&#8221; you might find out what I was talking about but after trying to do so myself on the Internet I came to the conclusion that it&#8217;s just &#8220;not there&#8221;.</p>
<p>The &#8220;it&#8221; refers to NZ&#8217;s implication in inciting the Kanak people from New Caledonia to rebel against French authority. If you don&#8217;t remember it there were very troubled times there in the 80s.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to argue about whether the Kanak people were justified in rebelling or not, that&#8217;s not my point.<br />
My point remains that a state shouldn&#8217;t meddle in another state&#8217;s business. They all do of course but if you think the Rainbow Warrior business was wrong (and it absolutely, totally WAS, and the agents should certainly have been punished more harshly, though not as harshly as their superiors and particularly the politicians in charge at the time) well then you will agree that NZ shouldn&#8217;t have incited people to &#8220;take up arms&#8221; in the 80s.</p>
<p>Still doesn&#8217;t compare ? well if you do need dead people for something to be important, you will find ample information about that on the web : people got killed by the French police and by independence fighters.</p>
<p>Final point : how do I know ? I know because my dad was a local reporter there at the time and he nearly got killed&#8230; I guess that&#8217;s also why I&#8217;m a bit emotional about it. You don&#8217;t have to believe me but I believe him.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll understand that my answer lacks actual evidence but as I have none to offer but my word if you don&#8217;t believe me please don&#8217;t answer this post. Unless you have proof NZ never did anything wrong&#8230; </p>
<p>We live in a world that&#8217;s both beautiful and messy. Let&#8217;s try and make it better. Let&#8217;s talk and not fight.</p>
<p>Have a nice day !</p>
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		<title>By: Lewis Holden</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwianarama.co.nz/le-country-we-love-to-hate/#comment-1547</link>
		<dc:creator>Lewis Holden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meddling in New Caledonia? Seriously? The worst New Zealand has done is *not* prevent independence activists from visiting our shores. Considering those activists are only fighting for what New Zealand troops sought to guarantee for France in 1916, I don&#039;t think we&#039;ve got anything to apologise for.

The French did do us a great service with the Rainbow Warrior affair though. They proved we&#039;ve got nothing to worry about when it comes to the DGSE - your agents are so incompetent they were caught by forestry workers in Northland. They thought they could trick the car rental people by saying they we&#039;re Swiss... sadly the counter girl had lived in Switzerland and knew their French wasn&#039;t with a Swiss accent. DGSE = amateurs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meddling in New Caledonia? Seriously? The worst New Zealand has done is *not* prevent independence activists from visiting our shores. Considering those activists are only fighting for what New Zealand troops sought to guarantee for France in 1916, I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ve got anything to apologise for.</p>
<p>The French did do us a great service with the Rainbow Warrior affair though. They proved we&#8217;ve got nothing to worry about when it comes to the DGSE &#8211; your agents are so incompetent they were caught by forestry workers in Northland. They thought they could trick the car rental people by saying they we&#8217;re Swiss&#8230; sadly the counter girl had lived in Switzerland and knew their French wasn&#8217;t with a Swiss accent. DGSE = amateurs.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwianarama.co.nz/le-country-we-love-to-hate/#comment-1176</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm I dunno if &#039;medding&#039; in some internal affairs and the bombing and murder of a NZ national can be put in the same argument... the spies who were respnsible for that shoyuld have gone to jail for murder, shame on the French government for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm I dunno if &#8216;medding&#8217; in some internal affairs and the bombing and murder of a NZ national can be put in the same argument&#8230; the spies who were respnsible for that shoyuld have gone to jail for murder, shame on the French government for that.</p>
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